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#1 Pawels1984

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:37 AM

Hello guys! Im tottaly new to this forum and dont even know what data would u need to help me.,
My pc is crashing(reboot) ,slowing down on daily basis .Ive checked it with Aida to find out i got warning signs in those sections,CPU Physical Info:Typical Powe,.CPUID Properties:CPU Thermal Design Power, North&South Bridge, SPD also have warning signs. I tried to highlite those "bad" values. Please help me, coz no way i can do it myself.My power supply is some cheap 650W.This pc was custom build by me.
Do i have to get new power supply or isit faulty motherboard? I also atached full report .Sorry about my english.
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Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type HexaCore AMD FX-6100, 3918 MHz (19.5 x 201)
CPU Alias Zambezi
CPU Stepping OR-B2
Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, XOP, AES, AVX, FMA4
Original Clock 3300 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 4.0x / 39.5x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Code Cache 64 KB per module
L1 Data Cache 16 KB per core
L2 Cache 2 MB per module (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
L3 Cache 8 MB (On-Die, ECC, NB-Speed)

Multi CPU
Motherboard ID ASUS
CPU #1 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3314 MHz
CPU #2 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3314 MHz
CPU #3 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3315 MHz
CPU #4 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3314 MHz
CPU #5 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3314 MHz
CPU #6 AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor, 3315 MHz

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 941 Pin uPGA
Package Size 40 mm x 40 mm
Transistors 1200 million
Process Technology 32 nm CMOS, Cu, HKMG, SOI, Immersion Lithography
Die Size 315 mm2
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Typical Power 95.0 W <=====Warning sign |
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North Bridge Properties
North Bridge AMD RS780L
Revision 00
Package Type 528 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 21 mm x 21 mm
Transistors 205 million
Process Technology 55 nm
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Core Voltage 1.0 V<====Warning sign |
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South Bridge Properties
South Bridge AMD SB710
Revision 00
Package Type 528 Pin FC-BGA
Package Size 21 mm x 21 mm
Process Technology 130 nm
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Core Voltage 1.2 V <====Warning sign |
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SPD
Field Value
Memory Module Properties
Module Name Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
Serial Number None
Module Size 4 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR3-1333 (667 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
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Module Voltage 1.5 V<===Warning sign |
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Error Detection Method None

Memory Timings
@ 666 MHz 9-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 34-107-5-10-5-5 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 592 MHz 8-8-8-22 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 30-95-5-9-5-5 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 518 MHz 7-7-7-19 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-83-4-8-4-4 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 444 MHz 6-6-6-16 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 23-72-4-7-4-4 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Extreme Memory Profile v1.2
Profile Name Enthusiast (Certified)
Memory Speed DDR3-1600 (800 MHz)
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Voltage 1.50 V (Memory Controller: 1.20 V)<====warning sign |
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@ 800 MHz 9-9-9-24 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 41-128-2-6-12-6-6 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 533 MHz 6-6-6-16 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 27-86-2-4-8-4-4 (RC-RFC-CR-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Memory Module Features
Auto Self Refresh Not Supported
Extended Temperature Range Supported
Extended Temperature Refresh Rate Not Supported
On-Die Thermal Sensor Readout Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Corsair Inc.
Product Information http://www.corsair.com/memory-3.html

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Product Information http://www.amd.com/u...ktop/processors
Driver Update http://www.aida64.com/driver-updates

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 / Core #1 3 %
CPU #1 / Core #2 0 %
CPU #1 / Core #3 0 %
CPU #1 / Core #4 0 %
CPU #1 / Core #5 1 %
CPU #1 / Core #6 0 %
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CPUID Properties
CPUID Manufacturer AuthenticAMD
CPUID CPU Name AMD FX™-6100 Six-Core Processor
CPUID Revision 00600F12h
Extended CPUID Revision 00600F12h
Platform ID D8h (Socket AM3+)
HTT / CMP Units 0 / 6
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CPU Thermal Design Power 95.0 W <===warning sign |
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Field Value
BIOS Properties
BIOS Type AMI
BIOS Version 0801
System BIOS Date 11/30/11
Video BIOS Date 08/10/11

BIOS Settings (ATK)
CPU Voltage 0.8000 V
CPU/NB Voltage 1.200 V
DRAM Voltage 1.460 V
HT Voltage 1.200 V
NB Voltage 1.100 V
CPU Frequency 200.00 MHz
CPU Ratio 20.5x

BIOS Manufacturer
Company Name American Megatrends Inc.
Product Information http://www.ami.com/amibios
BIOS Upgrades http://www.aida64.com/bios-updates

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#2 Fiery

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:42 PM

Those aren't warning signs, just the regular voltage/power/current icon AIDA64 uses. What may cause the stability issues on your system:

1) Incorrect or too agressive memory settings

2) Memory module incompatibility with your motherboard

3) PSU (Power Supply Unit) failure or weakness

4) Motherboard capacitor issues

5) Overheating

Try to run the AIDA64 System Stability Test (AIDA64 / main menu / Tools / System Stability Test), only have the "FPU" subtest enabled, and press the Start button. Watch as the temperatures climb up, let it go for cca. 15-20 minutes, and then check what are the highest values the temperatures reach. CPU and core diode temperatures should be under 70 Celsius, motherboard and hard disk drives should be under 55 Celsius. If during the test your computer restarts, powers off or Windows throws a BSoD, and the temperatures look not-so-high, then it can be any of the first 4 listed issues.


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#3 Pawels1984

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:05 PM

Thanks very much for your replay Fiery!!
I done as u said: Cpu temp went up to 76 degrees shortly after test has begun. Hdd stayed on about 55 degrees. So that looks pretty normal. Would a little higher temp on Cpu could affect perfomance so badly?
For example when im playing my fav game(dont know if i can say title,so i wont) there is fps counter in top left corner.When i start its on about 90-120fps,after few minutes it drops to 15fps!And stays like that.
I have stock fan on that Cpu.
My pc is not overclocked in any shape or form,RAM is compatible with my mobo,i checked it before i bought it.
Again thanks very much for your help!

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 07:45 PM

You may want to try the AIDA64 Logging feature (AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Hardware Monitoring / Logging) to record your GPU temperatures (so as other temperatures and voltages) into a HTML file while playing games. That may give you an idea on what are the maximum temperatures your video card reaches, and whether it is normal or too high. A slowdown in FPS sounds quite odd, but an overheating video card may explain that...
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:24 AM

Hello again Fiery!
Again i done as you said: loged all the stats, dont know what are normal temps for GPU,GPU diode went up to 85degrees as u can see on the atached file and CPU cores up to 82degrees.
Is that way to high?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:27 PM

GPU temperature is fine, but CPU core temperatures look a bit too high. If it's possible, try to improve the cooling of your CPU, or the exhaust ventilation of your system case. The latter should help to lower both the GPU and CPU temperature.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:38 PM

thanks for all your help mate!




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