I am just getting back to this.
Disabling had no effect, but honestly, if it cannot run with AVG, dropbox, radeon control, G HUB and steam plus my printer driver then it is broke. I feel these are common enough types of thngs to be running in the background, that they should be a problem.
Also, we need to address why I cannot see anything GPU related unless I down load a pre built display and even with a prebuilt display, not all parameters are reading.
Dan