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Hi all. I just registered to post a question about the CPU temperature.

 

I have this old Socket478 motherboard GA-8IPE1000-G v4.0 by Gigabyte and a 3.0GHz Northwood based Pentium 4 processor on it. I've made a test, so here is the thing:

I had a stock cooler on this processor which kept it around 40 degrees, and this temperature (+/- a degreee or soo) was reported by both AIDA64 and the BIOS. However, I've recently mounted a new Zalman cooler and BIOS now reports temperatures which are lower, barely reaching 30 degrees, which is somewhat expected since the cooler is all copper, much better and larger than the stock one. However, AIDA64 still reports temperatures around 40-45 degrees - it is as if it were fixed on those temps for this CPU model and that's it. If I restart Windows at the moment while AIDA64 reported temps like 45 degrees and immediately enter BIOS, BIOS will show current temp around 26-30 degrees. Why is this happening?

 

BIOS is Award Modular 2005, version F5.

CPU is Intel Pentium 4 (200 x 15 = 3GHz), Northwood core, nothing overclocked.

 

 

Thanks in advance for any clarifications.

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OK, here it is:

 

 

Motherboard ID      : 08/19/2005-i865PE-6A79ZG0SC-00

Motherboard Model   : Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G v4

Motherboard Chipset : Intel Springdale i865PE

 

Award BIOS Type     : Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG

Award BIOS Message  : Intel 865PE AGPSet BIOS for 8IPE1000-G/L F5

 

DMI MB Manufacturer : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.

DMI MB Product      : 8IPE1000-G/L

DMI MB Version      : 

DMI MB Serial       : 

DMI SYS Manufacturer: 

DMI SYS Product     : 

DMI SYS Version     : 

DMI SYS Serial      : 

DMI BIOS Version    : F5

 

ITE 87xx Port           = 00h

ITE 87xx HWMonitor Port = 0000h

ITE 87xx Device ID      = 0000h

ITE 87xx Version        = 00h

 

Winbond SuperIO Port           = 00h

Winbond SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h

Winbond SuperIO Device ID      = FFFFh

 

Fintek SuperIO Port           = 00h

Fintek SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h

Fintek SuperIO Device ID      = 0000h

 

LPC47 SuperIO HWMonitor Port = 0000h

LPC47 SuperIO Device ID      = 6001h

 

------[ ACPI Temperatures & Fans ]------

 

_TZ_.THM0._TMP             : 

_TZ_.THM1._TMP             : 

_TZ_.THR0._TMP             : 

_TZ_.THR1._TMP             : 

_TZ_.TZ00._TMP             : 

_TZ_.TZ01._TMP             : 

_TZ_.RTMP                  : 

_TZ_.RFAN                  : 

_TZ_.RFAN(0)               : 

_TZ_.RFAN(1)               : 

_SB_.ATKD._HID             : 

_SB_.ATKD.TMPR             : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.CCTV   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.LRPM   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC0.EC0_.HRPM   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.ECPU   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TACH(0): 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TACH(1): 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TAH0   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.TAH1   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.ST00   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC01   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC02   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC03   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC04   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC05   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.SC06   : 

_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.EC0_.TCRT   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC0_.CTPM   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC__.CPUT   : 

_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.EC__.SYST   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.CTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.CTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMP1   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMP2   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMPI   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC0_.TMPV   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.A1TP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.A2TP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC0_.FAN0   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS1R   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS2R   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.TS3R   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F1FL   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F1FH   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F2FL   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.EC__.F2FH   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.RTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.LTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.MTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.H8EC.GTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.CTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.DTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.GTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.ITMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.MTMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.STMP   : 

_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H8EC.PFAN   : 

 

------[ Gigabyte EasyTune ]------

 

T1:     28 C

F0:   2409 RPM

F2:      0 RPM

F4:   1806 RPM

V0: 12.020 V

V1:  5.040 V

V2:  3.380 V

V3:  1.600 V
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Thank you, but I'm afraid that dump didn't include any information for your onboard sensor chip.  Are you sure everything was okay with AIDA64 when you made the dump?  Or maybe you've stripped some parts of the dump output?

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No, I have used the "Copy to Clipboard" button. I have only omitted the first two lines about AIDA64 version and the operating system. Everything else was inserted here.

 

If this is of any help, in the Sensor window, AIDA64 says this:

Sensor Type: SMSC LPC47M192/997  (SMBus 2Dh)

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Ah, yes, my bad, it's an SMBus based sensor :)  Then please right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> SMBus Dump (Full).  Copy-paste the full results here.

 

 

Thanks,

Fiery

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OK, no problem. Thanks for the effort so far.  ;)

Here is the SMBus Dump (Full) data that you've required:

 
------[ Motherboard Info ]------
 
Motherboard ID      : 08/19/2005-i865PE-6A79ZG0SC-00
Motherboard Model   : Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000-G v4
Motherboard Chipset : Intel Springdale i865PE
 
Award BIOS Type     : Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message  : Intel 865PE AGPSet BIOS for 8IPE1000-G/L F5
 
DMI MB Manufacturer : Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
DMI MB Product      : 8IPE1000-G/L
DMI MB Version      : 
DMI MB Serial       : 
DMI SYS Manufacturer: 
DMI SYS Product     : 
DMI SYS Version     : 
DMI SYS Serial      : 
DMI BIOS Version    : F5
 
------[ GPIO @ isa 1080 ]------
 
0000  81 31 E0 1A  FF FF 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 3F 1B
0010  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 04 00  00 00 00 00
0020  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  FF 39 00 00
0030  07 00 00 00  00 03 00 00  06 03 03 00  00 00 00 00
 
------[ 1 SMBus detected ]------
 
------[ SMBus #0 ]------
 
SMBus Type  : Intel ICH
SMBus Port  : 1400
Can Have SPD: Yes
Scan Type   : Full
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D2D ]------
 
  0000  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  0010  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 81 00  ................
  0020  CB 86 C4 C2 C2 C5 2E 1F FF FF FF FF 00 FF 00 FF  ................
  0030  00 FF 00 FF 00 FF 00 7F 80 7F 80 FF FF FF 55 20  ............U 
  0040  09 00 80 FF FF FF FF 0D FF 80 00 13 00 00 FF 00  ................
  0050  D9 FF 01 FF FF 00 FF BB 7F 81 FF FF FF FF FF FF  ...............
  0060  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  0070  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  0080  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  0090  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00A0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00B0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00C0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00D0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00E0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00F0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D2D ]------
 
  0000  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  0010  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FF81 FF00 
  0020  FFCB FF86 FFC4 FFC2 FFC2 FFC5 FF2E FF1F FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FF00 FFFF FF00 FFFF 
  0030  FF00 FFFF FF00 FFFF FF00 FFFF FF00 FF7F FF80 FF7F FF80 FFFF FFFF FFFF FF55 FF20 
  0040  FF09 FF00 FF80 FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FF0D FFFF FF80 FF00 FF03 FF00 FF00 FFFF FF00 
  0050  FFD9 FFFF FF01 FFFF FFFF FF00 FFFF FFBB FF7F FF81 FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  0060  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  0070  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  0080  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  0090  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00A0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00B0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00C0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00D0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00E0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
  00F0  FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF 
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D44 ]------
 
  0000  00 00 0F 3F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ...?............
  0010  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0020  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0040  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0050  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0060  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0070  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0080  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0090  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00A0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00B0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00C0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00D0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00E0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  00F0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D44 ]------
 
  0000  FF00 FF00 FF0F FF3F FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0010  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0020  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0030  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0040  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0050  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0060  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0070  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0080  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  0090  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00A0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00B0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00C0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00D0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00E0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
  00F0  FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 FF00 
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D50 ]------
 
  0000  80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01  ......@..Pe.....
  0010  0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80  ..... .`puu<(<(.
  0020  60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00  ``@@.....7F((P..
  0030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9  ................
  0040  7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........K......
  0050  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 02 6C  ...............l
  0060  0A E9 0B 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0070  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0080  00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF  .$..I........1..
  0090  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00A0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00B0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00C0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00D0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00E0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00F0  39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 31 30 30 2E 41 30 30 4C  99U5193-100.A00L
 
------[ SMBus Device B00-D52 ]------
 
  0000  80 08 07 0D 0B 02 40 00 04 50 65 00 82 08 00 01  ......@..Pe.....
  0010  0E 04 18 01 02 20 C0 60 70 75 75 3C 28 3C 28 80  ..... .`puu<(<(.
  0020  60 60 40 40 00 00 00 00 00 37 46 28 28 50 00 00  ``@@.....7F((P..
  0030  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 A9  ................
  0040  7F 98 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 4B 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........K......
  0050  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 09 33 6C  ..............3l
  0060  25 A9 41 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  %.A.............
  0070  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
  0080  00 24 B6 00 49 0A FF FF FF FF FF 12 18 31 FF FF  .$..I........1..
  0090  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00A0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00B0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00C0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00D0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00E0  FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF  ................
  00F0  39 39 55 35 31 39 33 2D 30 39 30 2E 41 30 31 4C  99U5193-090.A01L
 
------[ Chips Found ]------
 
B00-D2D: SMSC LPC47M192
B00-D52: uPI uP????
 
I believe this is the chip in question:
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One more test done today. AIDA64 showed 47°C while the PC was at idle for some time. I then decided to restart the computer and to immediately enter BIOS to see its temperature readings. It showed that CPU temp was around 28-30°C only. This is a huge, like 15°C difference. I opened up the casing and the cooler was barely warm to the touch. So BIOS's reading somehow makes more sence than AIDA's. If the CPU temperature had risen really over 45°C, that would have made the heatsink more hot to the touch, wouldn't you agree?  B) 

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Thank you for the data. I agree with your observation, however, we've checked, and everything seems to be alright with how AIDA64 handles your sensor chip.  Please check both Motherboard and CPU temperatures before restarting your PC, then go straight to the BIOS Setup, and check those temperatures there.  Let me know if there's any match between those.  Please also let me know how many temperature readings you can see in the BIOS Setup.  Maybe your motherboard only measures a single temperature, but it's labelled "CPU" in the BIOS Setup and "Motherboard" in AIDA64?

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Thanks for the reply/suggestion, and sorry for the delay from my part.

OK, here it is:

 
At this moment, the ambient temperature in the room is around 20°C.
AIDA64 reports the CPU temp to be 42°C, and Motherboard temp to be 34°C.
 
I have just restarted the PC and entered BIOS. It shows that the CPU temp is only 28°C (which sounds somehow very likely, because of the Northwood core and a very large all-copper Zalman heatsink with a 92mm fan on it at full speed).
 
BIOS reports only CPU temp reading.
AIDA64, however, shows temp readings for Motherboard, CPU, GPU and the hard drive.
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Thank you.  The only idea we've left with is that maybe the BIOS Setup uses an offset on the temperature reading to compensate a weak temperature diode.  But the only way to verify that theory would be for you to install Gigabyte EasyTune application (that comes with your motherboard), and check temperatures both at idle and under heavy load, while having the AIDA64 Sensor page and EasyTune temperature monitoring page open side-by-side.  If you could do that, then please let us know about your findings.

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EasyTune shows CPU temp to be 31°C, while AIDA64 says it is 48°C at the same time.

 

This was taken when the computer was not under load (only these two applications and Google Chrome were opened at the time). The ET reading matches that of BIOS's, and is very logical since the heatsink is barely mildly warm to the touch (in other words, it is too "cold" for a 48°C temperature).

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Done. Now AIDA64 also reports what BIOS and ET report.

 

 

Now that you have mentioned a "BIOS Offset", I remembered something. When I downloaded the BIOS update for this board from Gigabyte's website, it was version F5. However, I remember that in one of the previous BIOS version descriptions there was something about like "Adjust CPU temperature measurement accuracy for Prescott CPU". Although my CPU is not a Prescott one, could it actually be that the BIOS itself has a "patch" for CPU temp reading in order to display the correct temp and is now doing it for both cores, since SMSC sensor chip might do it wrongly (causing AIDA64 do display these wrong readings)?

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It's possible, yes.  Some Gigabyte motherboards use such offsets for voltages and temperatures, so it's not a very unique feature.  Sadly, such quirks are usually not easy to have automatically applied in 3rd party software like AIDA64, so you have to find out the offset and use the Correction feature of AIDA64.

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Well, thanks for the help so far. It actually makes sense if Gigabyte did put this offset, because the CPU's heatsink physically gets barely warm and is not even close to temperatures over 40°C. Maybe they figured that the SMSC chip sends too high a reading and therefore flashed the BIOS with this patch to "correct" the problem.

Prescott cores run very hot even at idle, I can't imagine what the sensor chip would send to AIDA64 (probably something over 60°C, which is not very nice to see).

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