Dunecat Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hi, today i downloaded & tested the new Aida64 Extreme Beta, to test it on my System. My Systemspecs can be seen here: My System After i set the Options of Aida64 to let it show Fanspeed, CPU Temps. etc. on my G19 Display (installed the latest Drivers for my G19 before) and also set the Updatefrequenzy to 1 Second, i started World of Warcraft to see, how Temps will go, when playing a 3D Game. But when i log into it, the graphics hang every second for a small moment. If i set a higher value like 5 secs in the Updatefrequenzy of Aida64, it hangs about every 5 seconds, and so on. Also i monitor a constant CPU usage in Idlemode, of about 10% which are used by the Aida64 Process. These are Issues, which i do not remember, when using the old everest ultimate version. When i deactivate Aida64 while running the Game, the Lags disappear. Hope that you have an Idea about this cause i like this Software greets Dunecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 1) Please copy-paste the full content of the Computer / Sensor page of AIDA64 into this topic. 2) Your system spec page is not 100% clear about your video adapters. Please confirm you have both a GTX480 and a GTX285 in your system. 3) Do you have any external drives (USB, FireWire, eSATA) connected? Thanks, Fiery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunecat Posted February 20, 2011 Author Share Posted February 20, 2011 1) Here is the Sensorpage: Informationsliste Wert Sensor Eigenschaften Sensortyp Winbond W83627DHG (ISA 290h) GPU Sensortyp Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh) Motherboard Name Asus P5E3 Deluxe / Premium Gehäusezutritt gefunden Nein Temperaturen Motherboard 35 °C (95 °F) CPU 35 °C (95 °F) 1. CPU / 1. Kern 25 °C (77 °F) 1. CPU / 2. Kern 29 °C (84 °F) 1. CPU / 3. Kern 17 °C (63 °F) 1. CPU / 4. Kern 20 °C (68 °F) GPU1: Grafikprozessor (GPU) 38 °C (100 °F) GPU1: GPU Diode 35 °C (95 °F) GPU1: GPU Speicher 32 °C (90 °F) GPU1: GPU Umgebung 31 °C (88 °F) GPU2: Grafikprozessor (GPU) 43 °C (109 °F) GPU2: GPU Speicher 35 °C (95 °F) GPU2: GPU Umgebung 36 °C (97 °F) WDC WD3200AAKS-00L9A0 (WD-WMAV29347229) 17 °C (63 °F) WDC WD3200AAKS-00L9A0 (WD-WMAV29379843) 17 °C (63 °F) WDC WD3200AAKS-61L9A0 (WD-WCAV2V784550) 17 °C (63 °F) WDC WD3200AAKS-61L9A0 (WD-WCAV2V784369) 17 °C (63 °F) Kühllüfter CPU 620 RPM Gehäuse #1 1918 RPM Gehäuse #2 2220 RPM GPU1 40% GPU2 1427 RPM (40%) Spannungswerte CPU Kern 1.35 V +3.3 V 3.31 V +5 V 4.97 V +12 V 11.87 V +5 V Bereitschaftsmodus 4.99 V GPU1: GPU Kern 0.96 V GPU1: GPU Vcc 3.32 V GPU1: GPU +12V 12.05 V GPU1: GPU VRM 0.95 V GPU2: GPU Kern 1.05 V GPU2: GPU Vcc 3.32 V Strom Werte CPU 54.87 A GPU1: GPU VRM 17.50 A Leistungswerte CPU 68.69 W GPU1: GPU VRM 16.50 W 2) I can confirm, that there are 2 GPUs in my System. A GTX 480 for Graphics and a GTX 285 for Physx. In the NVidia Driverpanel it is also set, that the 285 only does physx and nothing else. 3) There is one external Drive connected, but it is switched off, most of the time, because its just a Backupdrive. Hope that these Data would help. Greetings Dune 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickproof Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Hi, same problem here, but in all 3D games, desktop (noticeable when moving windows) and in videos. AIDA is apparently conflict with any updated drivers, because the problem occurs only been about 5-6 weeks (I have AIDA64 since release as a ZIP Package, updated to 1.60 right now). I was desperate at the problem ... I have since examined more closely, so here's what I've got: following scenario: G15 LCD output enabled, update frequency 1 sec., vsync on. Every 900 to 1000 ms is one ~100ms Overexposure that stops the playback for a short time. Recorded with Fraps: Frame Time(ms) 55, 898.891 56, 915.515 57, 1000.690 58, 1016.153 ... ... 117, 1999.109 118, 2016.382 119, 2034.092 120, 2049.495 121, 2150.316 122, 2167.860 ... ... 182, 3167.185 183, 3183.669 184, 3271.681 185, 3285.558 186, 3300.793 If Update interval is set to 5 seconds, the picture freezes every 5 seconds, (same 100ms Overexposure) etc. with vsync off, problems not occur. I'm using G15 Blue Backlight with Logitech GamePanel-Software 3.06 x64 Please fix it if u can, guys. Paid 15 € for this nise soft, but can't use it sorry for bad english, translate with google. Here's Report: --------[ AIDA64 Extreme Edition ]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version AIDA64 v1.60.1300 Benchmark Module 2.7.345-x64 Homepage http://www.aida64.com/ Report Type Report Wizard Computer QUATTRO Generator Nickproof Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1.7601 (Win7 RTM) Date 2011-02-26 Time 22:58 --------[ Summary ]----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer: Computer Type ACPI x64-based PC Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate OS Service Pack Service Pack 1 Internet Explorer 8.0.7601.17514 DirectX DirectX 11.0 Motherboard: CPU Type QuadCore AMD Phenom II X4 945, 3300 MHz (15 x 220) Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P (2 PCI, 4 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR3 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394) Motherboard Chipset AMD 770, AMD K10 System Memory 8192 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM) DIMM1: G Skill F3-10666CL7-2GBRH 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 592 MHz) (7-7-7-19 @ 518 MHz) (6-6-6-16 @ 444 MHz) DIMM2: G Skill F3-10666CL7-2GBRH 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 592 MHz) (7-7-7-19 @ 518 MHz) (6-6-6-16 @ 444 MHz) DIMM3: G Skill F3-10666CL7-2GBRH 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 592 MHz) (7-7-7-19 @ 518 MHz) (6-6-6-16 @ 444 MHz) DIMM4: G Skill F3-10666CL7-2GBRH 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 592 MHz) (7-7-7-19 @ 518 MHz) (6-6-6-16 @ 444 MHz) BIOS Type Award Modular (07/09/10) Display: Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 (1280 MB) Monitor Dell 2408WFP (Digital) [24" LCD] (CX268843JWLS) Multimedia: Audio Adapter Creative SB X-Fi Audio Controller Audio Adapter nVIDIA HDMI @ nVIDIA GF100 - High Definition Audio Controller Storage: IDE Controller Standard-Zweikanal-PCI-IDE-Controller IDE Controller Standard-Zweikanal-PCI-IDE-Controller Disk Drive Generic Flash HS-CF USB Device Disk Drive Generic Flash HS-COMBO USB Device Disk Drive INTEL SSDSA2M040G2GC ATA Device (40 GB, SATA-II) Disk Drive WDC WD5000BEKT-00KA9T0 ATA Device (465 GB, IDE) Optical Drive DTSoftBusCd00 Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH22NS50 ATA Device (DVD+R9:16x, DVD-R9:12x, DVD+RW:22x/8x, DVD-RW:22x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM) Optical Drive TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device (DVD+R9:16x, DVD-R9:12x, DVD+RW:20x/8x, DVD-RW:20x/6x, DVD-RAM:12x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM) SMART Hard Disks Status OK Partitions: C: (NTFS) 38163 MB (12992 MB free) D: (NTFS) 465.8 GB (54.5 GB free) Total Size 503.0 GB (67.2 GB free) Input: Keyboard HID-Tastatur Keyboard HID-Tastatur Keyboard HID-Tastatur Keyboard HID-Tastatur Mouse HID-konforme Maus Mouse HID-konforme Maus Network: Primary IP Address 192.168.1.102 Primary MAC Address 00-24-1D-DB-D8-2F Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20) (192.168.1.102) Peripherals: Printer Fax Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller USB1 Controller ATI SB750 - OHCI USB Controller USB2 Controller ATI SB750 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller USB2 Controller ATI SB750 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller USB Device Generic USB Hub USB Device Generic USB Hub USB Device Generic USB Hub USB Device USB-Eingabegerät USB Device USB-Eingabegerät USB Device USB-Eingabegerät USB Device USB-Eingabegerät USB Device USB-Eingabegerät USB Device USB-Massenspeichergerät USB Device USB-Verbundgerät USB Device USB-Verbundgerät USB Device Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for Windows DMI: DMI BIOS Vendor Award Software International, Inc. DMI BIOS Version F10 DMI System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. DMI System Product GA-MA770T-UD3P DMI System Version DMI System Serial Number DMI System UUID 30303234-31444442-44383246-FFFFFFFF DMI Motherboard Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. DMI Motherboard Product GA-MA770T-UD3P DMI Motherboard Version x.x DMI Motherboard Serial Number DMI Chassis Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. DMI Chassis Version DMI Chassis Serial Number DMI Chassis Asset Tag DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 4 / 0 --------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sensor Properties: Sensor Type ITE IT8720F (ISA 228h) GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh) Motherboard Name Gigabyte MA770 / MA790FX / MA790GP / MA790X Series Chassis Intrusion Detected Yes Temperatures: Motherboard 32 °C (90 °F) CPU 25 °C (77 °F) CPU #1 / Core #1 22 °C (72 °F) CPU #1 / Core #2 22 °C (72 °F) CPU #1 / Core #3 22 °C (72 °F) CPU #1 / Core #4 22 °C (72 °F) GPU 27 °C (81 °F) GPU Diode 27 °C (81 °F) GPU Memory 23 °C (73 °F) GPU Ambient 24 °C (75 °F) WDC WD5000BEKT-00KA9T0 22 °C (72 °F) Voltage Values: CPU Core 1.392 V +3.3 V 3.328 V +12 V 12.586 V VBAT Battery 3.072 V DIMM 1.632 V GPU Core 0.875 V GPU Vcc 3.309 V Debug Info F FFFF FFFF FFFF 0000 FFFF Debug Info T 32 25 82 Debug Info V 57 66 D0 BE C2 83 D0 8E C0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 There's a chance the lag is caused for both of you by ForceWare drivers, while AIDA64 tries to monitor your video cards via ForceWare driver calls. Please try to disable the GPU module by right-clicking on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> HWMon Modules --> GPU. You can enable and disable that module (or any of the other modules as well, if you'd like to do some more experimenting about this matter) on-the-fly while you keep AIDA64 running. Please let me know what can you find out, and also what version of nVIDIA ForceWare drivers do you both have installed. Thanks, Fiery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickproof Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hello Fiery, it works! No lags anymore. now i can use AIDA64 again Thank you Edit: now i'm not recieve any information about my Graphiccard. Using Forceware 266.58. Got same problem with old release too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Thanks for the feedback. You may want to try switching the option "nVIDIA GPU SMBus access through nVIDIA ForceWare" in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Stability. Maybe by disabling that you can re-enable the GPU module to get back GPU temperatures and voltages again. Let me know how it went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunecat Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 There's a chance the lag is caused for both of you by ForceWare drivers, while AIDA64 tries to monitor your video cards via ForceWare driver calls. Please try to disable the GPU module by right-clicking on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> HWMon Modules --> GPU. You can enable and disable that module (or any of the other modules as well, if you'd like to do some more experimenting about this matter) on-the-fly while you keep AIDA64 running. Please let me know what can you find out, and also what version of nVIDIA ForceWare drivers do you both have installed. Thanks, Fiery Hello Fiery, i tested the Options, you mentioned. When i deactivate the GPU Module, the GPU Data disappears, as Nickproof mentioned before. But disabling the option "nVIDIA GPU SMBus access through nVIDIA ForceWare" works. The Lags disappear nearly completely. There are some Lags left, but i suppose, that these are caused by other issues in the Gameengine itself. My Driverversion is the same as the one Nickproof uses. But by doing all of the testing last week, i discovered another issue: The Alarm option of Aida, where you can setup different Sensors, to be watched and give an alarm message or do a computershutdown, when going over a certain temperature for example, are not saved. When i setup these alarms and work with the computer, they are shown in the Alarmlist. But when i reboot my Computer, the list is empty. So Aida does not save my Alarmsetups after a reboot. greetings Dunecat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emulator Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 same exact things happen to me with every version of aida64..Disabling some of the things mentioned "helps"..but I will not stand for that..I don't want even 1 tiny spike in my fps because of a software running in the background. EVEREST "NEVER" did this. This alone is a deal breaker for me. What use is it to be able to monitor your hardware ( as a gamer) if you'll get fps hiccups every 5 seconds? I recently bought a Logitech G19..and have reverted to EVEREST 5.50 due to these fps issues. The only downside with everest ( it may be because I'm using a newer BETA driver) is that I cant monitor my GPU clocks. But AIDA does. edit: OK so i decided to go back in time and tried out v1.00.1111 NO ISSUES what so ever! I don't know what you guys implemented since then to the GPU aspect of the software..but after v1.0 , something went wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasincur Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 I'd like to confirm this bug as well, and add some additional information - which may help in finding the cause of the problem. As previous posters mentioned, the delay, which happens about every 10 seconds, is very disturbing and noticable in most 3D games when Vsync is on. It actually took me quite a while to figure out that AIDA64 is causing it. Indeed, disabling "nVIDIA GPU SMBus access through nVIDIA ForceWare" in AIDA64 seems to be solving the problem. Furthermore, I managed to find out where the bug was introduced: In Everest v5.50.2100 (last release) - enabling this option (which is disabled by default there) - does NOT cause any lags, and everything works properly - both with the option disabled and enabled. However, In Everest v5.50.2225 (last beta) - enabling this option (which is disabled by default there as well) - definitely causes the lag - and with this build it works properly only with the option disabled. This behavior continues with AIDA64. So, as it seems, something in this option - which changed between Everest v5.50.2100 and Everest v5.50.2225 - is the source of this problem. I hope this might give an idea on how to address it. P.S. I'm using Windows7 x64 on an Intel DX58SO with i7-950 and Geforce GTX 470 (with latest nVidia driver). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 But by doing all of the testing last week, i discovered another issue: The Alarm option of Aida, where you can setup different Sensors, to be watched and give an alarm message or do a computershutdown, when going over a certain temperature for example, are not saved. When i setup these alarms and work with the computer, they are shown in the Alarmlist. But when i reboot my Computer, the list is empty. So Aida does not save my Alarmsetups after a reboot. greetings Dunecat Thank you, the next beta release of AIDA64 will fix that issue. So, as it seems, something in this option - which changed between Everest v5.50.2100 and Everest v5.50.2225 - is the source of this problem. I hope this might give an idea on how to address it. The actual thing changed between those Everest builds were the ForceWare interface support for GF100 based cards. Hence with Everest v5.50.2100 the SMBus access was always done directly. --- We've done some more test runs on our Gigabyte GTX470 test card, and it seems the issue is related to the ForceWare driver calls, and so it is not a bug related to AIDA64 I'm afraid Indeed, disabling "nVIDIA GPU SMBus access through nVIDIA ForceWare" in AIDA64 seems to be solving the problem. That effectively means performing direct SMBus access, to avoid ForceWare interface performance issues. Further improvement can be achieved by disabling the option "GPU fan speed measurement" in AIDA64 / Preferences / Stability, when GPU fan monitoring is not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmace Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have a Logitech G510 and had the same problems as the other too. I followed you suggestions and the problem is better, but has not gone away. I disabled both the fan and Nvidia SMBus checks. I still get the lag with AID64 is on, 1.60.1300. Is there anything to try. I have 20 sensors on the display, can to many be an issue? I am using GTX 480s and a GTX 470. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I have a Logitech G510 and had the same problems as the other too. I followed you suggestions and the problem is better, but has not gone away. I disabled both the fan and Nvidia SMBus checks. I still get the lag with AID64 is on, 1.60.1300. Is there anything to try. I have 20 sensors on the display, can to many be an issue? I am using GTX 480s and a GTX 470. Is there anything else I can do? Thanks. In case you have an RAID array connected to an Intel SATA RAID controller, you can disable RAID SMART support in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Stability, using the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/aida64extremebuild1358s7dm2qvrgbzip 20 sensors shouldn't be a problem, BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmace Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 In case you have an RAID array connected to an Intel SATA RAID controller, you can disable RAID SMART support in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Stability, using the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/aida64extremebuild1358s7dm2qvrgbzip 20 sensors shouldn't be a problem, BTW. Okay, I will give it a try. I am running 2 Intel 80GB SSDs in raid on a board using Intel SATA Raid (Asus RampageIIIExtreme). Time to renew my subscription, I'll see what happens in 1.70. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 grimmace, update to IRST 10.5.0.1027 WHQL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 grimmace, update to IRST 10.5.0.1027 WHQL Where do you go to get the new IRST updates? I go to Intel site and see an older version listed as the newest. I currently have 10.5.0.1015 from the Gigabyte download site that I check often for updates on my board. I have the Gigabyte GA-X58A UD7. Thanks. By the way, I don't have a RAID setup but use this SATA RAID driver for AHCI only on my WD Velociraptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmace Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Where do you go to get the new IRST updates? I go to Intel site and see an older version listed as the newest. I currently have 10.5.0.1015 from the Gigabyte download site that I check often for updates on my board. I have the Gigabyte GA-X58A UD7. Thanks. By the way, I don't have a RAID setup but use this SATA RAID driver for AHCI only on my WD Velociraptors. Just do a Google search on the IRST 10.5.0.1027. GB has it, and few other places as WHQL. It's not on Intel's site yet though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Rapid Storage 10.5.0.1027 WHQL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Thanks grimmace and Squall Leonhart. Grimmace, you probably mean't to type in the newer version of IRST, not the older one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimmace Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Thanks grimmace and Squall Leonhart. Grimmace, you probably mean't to type in the newer version of IRST, not the older one. Fixed it, thanks. Haven't tried out 1.70 on the G510 LCD yet, seems the new drivers need some time to settle in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 This is version 1026 of IRST, and on Station Drivers site, the explanation as to why is in French, and I can't read it lol. I speak English and some Spanish only. Can you tranlate it for me? Thanks! Grimmace, what did you mean on what you last said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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