Squall Leonhart Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 during extended aida64 usage, the page file details in the memory section may double up the info displayed... for instance, it displays the used/max items twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 I can confirm that the paging file has a problem. I'm currently missing "Current/Peak Usage" & "Utilization". Using latest beta (xx.1230)this also happens in previous beta (xx.1224)but not in any versions pre .1224 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 during extended aida64 usage, the page file details in the memory section may double up the info displayed... for instance, it displays the used/max items twice. Are you running Windows 7 64-bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Yes, it occurs both in Build 7600(SP0) and 7601(SP1). I can confirm that the paging file has a problem. I'm currently missing "Current/Peak Usage" & "Utilization". Using latest beta (xx.1230)this also happens in previous beta (xx.1224)but not in any versions pre .1224 It will not immediately display, but leave aida64 open for some time and the usage's will eventually show up. then double up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 We've fixed it up in the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/aida64extremebuild1236qs6kmn3yrzzip After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade. Let me know how it works. Thanks, Fiery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Problem not solved for me.! Will check this on main comp later on this afternoon and post results.! P.S, My pagefile is installed onto my (D:) Drive which is a raid0 config'd drive. (2*500gb) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Sometimes it takes a few minutes for the missing items to appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Sometimes it takes a few minutes for the missing items to appear. Info does not apair at all. I can leave app open for an hour and no info will appair . Just tried this on main comp and have the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 it appeared immediately for me, now i will wait and see if it doubles up still. update getting thread creation errors in this new build i have the g15 LCD enabled as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 After 3 hrs running the pagefile info finally decided to show . Still waiting on main comp to see in pagefile info does show, so far it has been about 3.5 hrs. S/L, Where did you get that "creation error" from? what page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted January 27, 2011 Author Share Posted January 27, 2011 no page, it was running in the tray. I think it may have been colliding with the threads created by a facebook app called cityville, because it only started occuring every 15 mins while that was running, and i haven't had it since closing the app. ok, no apps running this time and it still happened. Happened again Checked the threads count this time, it was at 111. restarted Aida64, and started with 4 threads, and has started growing.. i expect it might be coinciding with the point in which it would start displaying the duplicated lines in previous builds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We've fixed the memory usage display issues on the Memory page. Make sure to upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/aida64extremebuild1241ow5ief2yskzip After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade. Let me know how it works. It may or may not help about the thread count issue. Thanks, Fiery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 The info is now displayed but there is no activity being registered in Aida. Seems the "Current/Peak Usage & Utilization" has no movement. I have tried using Premier Pro which is a pagefile dependent, and still see no activity in Aida64. (V xx.1241). Snapshot inc shows the Pagefile "current/Peak Usage & Utilization" is fixed to 0MB & 0%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Are you sure with over 10 GBytes of free physical memory Adobe Premiere would use pagefile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Are you sure with over 10 GBytes of free physical memory Adobe Premiere would use pagefile? Hi Fiery, yes I'm 100% sure Adobe Prem.Pro & A.Effects uses Paging. But i do have some good news, I done a complete uninstall of Aida then reinstalled the Latest Beta, I then had Aida register activity of my pagefile. But............ I just loaded this system this morning and checked, and it seems Aida64 is not registering any activity on pagefile again. i know the page file is in use as i have placed it on another drive (scratch dsk) and i have a gadget which shows me my drive activities. Basically it's looking like Aida is randomly showing paging usage. Going to try on main system and report back.! Also fiery not sure if the following has anything to do with the problem, i have placed my Pagefile.sys onto my D: drive which is configured to raid0. 2*500gb. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 Windows 7 limits the use of the page file a great deal, it will allow system ram to fill up completely before swapping inactive but loaded content to paging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Windows 7 limits the use of the page file a great deal, it will allow system ram to fill up completely before swapping inactive but loaded content to paging. Of which I'm fully aware off. BUT... as i stated in previous post i use Prem pro & After effects which are Pagefile dependent programs, I loaded a project (stacked with video) and i can clearly see that the pagepage is being used whilst running Prem pro. (Pagefile is assigned to a scratch disk) So Aida should be able to see this activity and clearly in my case it's not.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 AIDA64 collects pagefile info using standard Windows API call NtQuerySystemInformation (1st parameter = SystemPageFileInformation). In case it reports unexpected values on your system, it's not the fault of AIDA64. The previous issue (when pagefile utilization lines did not display for a while) was because AIDA64 didn't bother to display "0 MB / 0 MB" lines. As soon as the utilization climbed up from zero, it displayed those lines. Now it is changed, so even zero utilization is shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 thread creation error is still occuring It only appears if aida64 is running (from the tray or otherwise) whilst sitting on the Memory page. if i change the page to any other the issue does not occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 AIDA64 collects pagefile info using standard Windows API call NtQuerySystemInformation (1st parameter = SystemPageFileInformation). In case it reports unexpected values on your system, it's not the fault of AIDA64. The previous issue (when pagefile utilization lines did not display for a while) was because AIDA64 didn't bother to display "0 MB / 0 MB" lines. As soon as the utilization climbed up from zero, it displayed those lines. Now it is changed, so even zero utilization is shown. Sorry Fiery, But i don't understand what you mean by "it's not Aida's fault". A few builds back i DID NOT have this problem with pagefile activity been shown in Aida. A problem gets reported by 2 users then you create a fix for the problem and now your saying that this problem is not related to Aida.? But a few builds back this was never a problem! Personally, i have not changed anything else in my system so i cant work out why it's not Aida's fault.? Fiery pls note I'm not trying to flame an argument here just don't understand some of your comments.! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Sorry Fiery, But i don't understand what you mean by "it's not Aida's fault". A few builds back i DID NOT have this problem with pagefile activity been shown in Aida. A problem gets reported by 2 users then you create a fix for the problem and now your saying that this problem is not related to Aida.? But a few builds back this was never a problem! Personally, i have not changed anything else in my system so i cant work out why it's not Aida's fault.? Fiery pls note I'm not trying to flame an argument here just don't understand some of your comments.! Thanks What I was trying to explain above is: there're 3 separate issues there, and one out of them is not related to AIDA64: 1) The first one, reported by Squall Leonhart was about the duplicate lines appearing after a while. We've already fixed that. 2) The second one, reported by you was about the missing utilization lines. It was due to AIDA64 did not bother displaying 0 MB / 0 MB and 0% lines. We've already changed that approach to displaying every lines even when they display no meaningful information. So even zero utilization is displayed now. We consider this issue fixed too. 3) The third one, reported by you was about zero paging file utilization reported by AIDA64 while using Adobe Premiere Pro. I've pointed to the fact that AIDA64 reports paging file information using standard Windows API calls. It's a kind of information that comes from Windows itself, and not processed or measured or computed or altered by AIDA64. If you don't like those values, or in case you simply don't believe in those values, then you have to find the error in the way Windows reports pagefile usage, and not try to find a bug in AIDA64 In case you're adament that previous betas reported "better" values, then please try to downgrade to an older beta, and show us on a screen shot what values did it report. But if you do so, then please also create a screen shot right after that, using the latest beta, for comparison. However, apart from issue#1 and issue#2, I'm 100% sure every previous AIDA64 beta and stable releases will report the very same values that the latest AIDA64 beta does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squall Leonhart Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 1) The first one, reported by Squall Leonhart was about the duplicate lines appearing after a while. We've already fixed that. It seems, as long as i leave the Memory pane selected, it will crash or report a threading error after a period of time (average is around 45min) if i switch to any other pane there's no problem and aida works perfectly normally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyew-jit-tiv Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Here you go Fiery, Capture1 shows latest Beta with NO activity on pagefile. Capture2 shows Aida v1.2.xx with pagefile activity info being shown except the utilization info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Here you go Fiery, Capture1 shows latest Beta with NO activity on pagefile. Capture2 shows Aida v1.2.xx with pagefile activity info being shown except the utilization info. Thanks. I'm sorry to be a pain in the back, but can you please do another test run, by creating 3 screen shots: 1) First, with the latest AIDA64 beta 2) Then, with the old AIDA64 version (v1.20) 3) Then, with the latest AIDA64 beta again I'm just asking that, because there's a noticable difference between swap space usage on the 2 screen shots you created, and I suspect between the time the first shot was captured and the time the second shot was captured, Windows simply started to use up the swap space, and hence started using the paging file. We've double-checked everything about the paging file utilization, and found no issues or anomalies at all. I still reckon you have no problems on your system, or at least nothing that would be related to AIDA64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It seems, as long as i leave the Memory pane selected, it will crash or report a threading error after a period of time (average is around 45min) if i switch to any other pane there's no problem and aida works perfectly normally. That's a 4th issue then Please let us know which AIDA64 Hardware Monitoring features do you have enabled. E.g. Sidebar, LCD, OSD, or a combination of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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