Share your Sensorpanels

[Mice007]

11 hours ago, exessivegk said:

I’ve gone through all 530 pages of panel content here.

Separate paid from shared.
Paid content shouldn’t be cluttering two different forums. If there’s a paid forum, then that’s where it belongs, no exceptions.

There are about 50 pages of genuine, original sharing, which is great. But over 100 pages are just people's reworkings of others creations to fit their own style. On top of that, we also see artwork that isn’t protected.

No one should hide behind or preach about infringement while also profiting from the same behavior themselves.

As someone who codes and scripts for FiveM servers and also develops textures and models, I can say with certainty: stealing game assets isn’t protected under “common right distribution.” That’s a courtroom argument, not a legal right.

 

We had to divide the two as with SensorPanel popularity as it required to have a different set of rules and also moderation and control as people with business intentions overgrown the more friendly share panels topic. The main reason was that people with business intentions started to overwhelm the more friendly panel-sharing discussions. It wasn’t an easy decision at the time, but this seemed like the best way forward, and I still think it works better like this. 

Of course, managing the forum isn’t without challenges: we have a wide mix of ages and backgrounds, and there are always people who don’t really care about IP rights.

We have a few moderators and we do our best to keep an eye on things, but we’re not a detective agency. When disagreements come up, whether about stolen graphics, ideas, or anything else, it’s very hard to figure out exactly what happened without investing a lot of resources into it. That said, anyone who feels like helping is welcome to apply as a moderator, and we’ll see if we can work together. We could even start a new topic where everyone can discuss their issues so we don’t flood this one. We’re open to anything that makes the community a better place.

[exessivegk]

33 minutes ago, Mice007 said:

We had to divide the two as with SensorPanel popularity as it required to have a different set of rules and also moderation and control as people with business intentions overgrown the more friendly share panels topic. The main reason was that people with business intentions started to overwhelm the more friendly panel-sharing discussions. It wasn’t an easy decision at the time, but this seemed like the best way forward, and I still think it works better like this. 

Of course, managing the forum isn’t without challenges: we have a wide mix of ages and backgrounds, and there are always people who don’t really care about IP rights.

We have a few moderators and we do our best to keep an eye on things, but we’re not a detective agency. When disagreements come up, whether about stolen graphics, ideas, or anything else, it’s very hard to figure out exactly what happened without investing a lot of resources into it. That said, anyone who feels like helping is welcome to apply as a moderator, and we’ll see if we can work together. We could even start a new topic where everyone can discuss their issues so we don’t flood this one. We’re open to anything that makes the community a better place.

Thank you for the explanation, and the input,

"The main reason was that people with business intentions started to overwhelm the more friendly panel-sharing discussions" 

I’ve noticed the same issue on the CFX forums, where stolen assets and copyright infringements are common. Due to the influx of posts and the grown popularity of FiveM scripts and assets, moderation often seems limited due to much needed help, whether the content is paid, stolen, or shared. and adhering to the rules at the same time. 

 The issue is when I see moderators exhibiting the very same behaviors as what they tell others, that becomes a problem.

 

 "but we’re not a detective agency"

We're going to tackle this one real quick as this stood out the most.

This issue stands out as particularly important and deserves to be addressed directly.

   Moderation remains a consistent challenge within open forums, as the ability to respond effectively in real time will naturally vary among individuals. It is not difficult to recognize that elements such as names, branding, logos, or even user interface design may raise concerns regarding potential intellectual property infringement. While such matters are often not problematic in casual or non commercial contexts, they take on a far greater significance when the work is being sold.

  Years ago when I first went down the rabbit hole of creating boilerplates, scripts and artworks for servers and different frameworks Licensed under Rockstar which included plugins Lua ,css, and others, It was a lengthy process of knowledge from giving away free scripts on Github to selling them on CFX legally. 

 

I leave this little bit of wisdom for newcomers, but it is not limited to this scenario.

1. What “cloned from the IP” means

If someone takes an existing skin (or another creator’s design) and copies it either exactly or with slight modifications that’s essentially making a derivative work without permission.

• Even small changes (colors, minor layout tweaks) usually don’t remove copyright protection, because copyright protects the overall expression, not just exact replication.

• If the original skin includes third-party content (logos, icons, game characters), that adds another layer of potential infringement.

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2. Legal implications

• The original creator still holds copyright, so the cloned work is likely infringing, even if it’s “not identical.”

• The person cloning it cannot claim copyright over the derivative work if it’s substantially based on the original without authorization.

Potential defenses of the cloner:

• Claiming it’s “inspired by” rather than copied, but courts usually look at substantial similarity, not intent.

• Arguing functional elements aren’t protected. True, but the unique artistic design is protected.

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3. Other considerations

• If the original skin was licensed under a specific license (e.g., Creative Commons “non-commercial”), cloning it and selling it violates both copyright and the license.

• Cloning from commercial software or well-known IP can lead to cease-and-desist letters or lawsuits, including claims of copyright and potentially trademark infringement.

 

As for the original artwork and content I did find on this forum, great job to all and don't be afraid to learn and express your art directions. 

 

[Torsten Boschan]

On 6/6/2024 at 9:11 PM, PVRV333 said:

This is awesome!! Can you post it please? Thanks