tistou77 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Hello It seems that Aida64 reads the VCCIN (CPU VRM) and not the Vcore for the 7940X (maybe with 7920X, etc...)It is missing the voltages for the "CPU VRM" and "Cache CPU" Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Please right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> ISA Sensor Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic, or attach the results as a TXT file to your post. You may need to enable status bar in AIDA64 / main menu / View first. Thanks, Fiery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hi Fiery the requested file Thanks isasensordump.txt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 12 hours ago, tistou77 said: Hi Fiery the requested file Thanks isasensordump.txt Thank you. Please upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme available at: https://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade. Let me know how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Share Posted October 12, 2017 Then the Vcore is indicated but remains "blocked" in idle (no variation in load)The CPU VRM and CPU Cache voltages are not indicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 On 2017. 10. 12. at 2:58 AM, tistou77 said: Then the Vcore is indicated but remains "blocked" in idle (no variation in load)The CPU VRM and CPU Cache voltages are not indicated The way it works on your motherboard is that at idle the Vcore voltage provided by the onboard sensor chip gets too low. In which case we've been told to use the CPU VID value instead of the measured Vcore voltage value. As far as I can tell, the voltage rails you miss aren't monitored by the onboard sensor chip on your motherboard. You may be able to adjust those rails in the BIOS Setup, but readback is not provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Fiery said: The way it works on your motherboard is that at idle the Vcore voltage provided by the onboard sensor chip gets too low. In which case we've been told to use the CPU VID value instead of the measured Vcore voltage value. As far as I can tell, the voltage rails you miss aren't monitored by the onboard sensor chip on your motherboard. You may be able to adjust those rails in the BIOS Setup, but readback is not provided. Ok thank you, and you know if on the Rampage VI Extreme, it's the same ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, tistou77 said: Ok thank you, and you know if on the Rampage VI Extreme, it's the same ? AFAIK it's the same there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 Ok Thanks Something I do not understand, with the Turbo Vcore software from Asus, it's possible to have the voltage of the Mesh/Cache (and modify it), Aida64 should be able to read this voltage, right?And with the old beta, CPUID read the VCCIN instead of Vcore, is that this tension was accessible ? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Hello With SIV 64X, the voltages of the Mesh (VCache) and the VCCIN are well indicatedJust the VCCIN (CPU VRM) which is indicated as "Vcore", a bug to regulated the side of SIV Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hello Fiery If you need other tests, to have these voltages with Aida64 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 All I can tell you about the Vcore issue is that AIDA64 does what the BIOS does on your motherboard. If the logic behind it seems odd, well, then the BIOS works odd too We've added the requested CPU Cache voltage reading in the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme available at: https://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade. Let me know how it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 Ok for Vcore, no worries It seems to be good for Cache voltageAnd for the voltage "CPU VRM", it should be possible to have it?CPUID Aida64 reads it (but it is indicated Core Voltage and not CPU VRM) Or it is a misreading of the Vcore (even if the voltage corresponds to the VRM CPU) ? Thanks so much PS: It also lacks + 3.3v voltage, normal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 On 2017. 10. 20. at 9:16 AM, tistou77 said: Ok for Vcore, no worries It seems to be good for Cache voltageAnd for the voltage "CPU VRM", it should be possible to have it?CPUID Aida64 reads it (but it is indicated Core Voltage and not CPU VRM) Or it is a misreading of the Vcore (even if the voltage corresponds to the VRM CPU) ? Thanks so much PS: It also lacks + 3.3v voltage, normal ? AIDA64 CPUID Panel shows Vcore, matching the "CPU Core" voltage reading on the Computer / Sensor page. There's no separate CPU VRM voltage rail that one could measure on your motherboard AFAIK. We'll add +3.3V readout in the next AIDA64 beta update due in a few days from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Fiery said: AIDA64 CPUID Panel shows Vcore, matching the "CPU Core" voltage reading on the Computer / Sensor page. There's no separate CPU VRM voltage rail that one could measure on your motherboard AFAIK. We'll add +3.3V readout in the next AIDA64 beta update due in a few days from now Thanks for the +3.3vFor the CPU VRM (VCCIN), this voltage is very well read by SIV 64X (indicated in yellow on the screen)There will be an update of SIV to indicate the VCCIN (instead of Core) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 VIN0 line holds VCore, not VCCIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 that's why SIV will do an update normally, and indicated this voltage as VCCIN and indicated the "good" tension for the VcoreSeveral people with Rampage VI have tried by changing this voltage in the bios, and this is the VCCIN Or this tension is available or we do not understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 11 hours ago, tistou77 said: that's why SIV will do an update normally, and indicated this voltage as VCCIN and indicated the "good" tension for the VcoreSeveral people with Rampage VI have tried by changing this voltage in the bios, and this is the VCCIN Or this tension is available or we do not understand All I know is that VIN0 is Vcore But at idle its value shouldn't be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 On 27/10/2017 at 8:29 AM, Fiery said: All I know is that VIN0 is Vcore But at idle its value shouldn't be used. ok thanks, I will use SIV64X to be able to read the VCCIN, in idle and load, the voltage is correctly read (checked with the DMM on the motherboard) I also asked Asus to see if the problem could be correctedFor other brands of motherboard, is it the same or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 On 2017. 11. 01. at 2:18 AM, tistou77 said: ok thanks, I will use SIV64X to be able to read the VCCIN, in idle and load, the voltage is correctly read (checked with the DMM on the motherboard) I also asked Asus to see if the problem could be correctedFor other brands of motherboard, is it the same or not ? We've done more research on this. As it turns out, on Asus Rampage VI Apex and Extreme boards VIN0 holds VCCIN when you have a Skylake-X processor installed; but the same register holds the Vcore when you have a Kaby Lake-X processor installed. Similar separation of register layout, based on the type of installed processor exists with other manufacturers as well. It's a recent phenomenon about the X299 platform, and should be no longer an issue once Intel commits to a single CPU architecture for each platform We'll correct the VCCIN vs. Vcore issue in the next AIDA64 beta update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, Fiery said: We've done more research on this. As it turns out, on Asus Rampage VI Apex and Extreme boards VIN0 holds VCCIN when you have a Skylake-X processor installed; but the same register holds the Vcore when you have a Kaby Lake-X processor installed. Similar separation of register layout, based on the type of installed processor exists with other manufacturers as well. It's a recent phenomenon about the X299 platform, and should be no longer an issue once Intel commits to a single CPU architecture for each platform We'll correct the VCCIN vs. Vcore issue in the next AIDA64 beta update. Ok, thanks for the explanationWill it be possible to read the VCCIN with a Skylake-X and the next update on a Rampage VI ? Thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, tistou77 said: Ok, thanks for the explanationWill it be possible to read the VCCIN with a Skylake-X and the next update on a Rampage VI ? Thanks so much Yes, of course. On Rampage VI boards with a Skylake-X processor installed, VCCIN will be measured, and Vcore will show the same reading as CPU VID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Ok thanks so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tistou77 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Hello With X299, the CPU Input Voltage is indicated VCCIN, and on X99, it is indicated CPU VRMIt is possible that also was indicated CPU VRM on X299 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 2017. 12. 03. at 5:06 PM, tistou77 said: Hello With X299, the CPU Input Voltage is indicated VCCIN, and on X99, it is indicated CPU VRMIt is possible that also was indicated CPU VRM on X299 ? Intel uses VCCIN for the Skylake-X voltage rail in question, so that's the correct term to use by monitoring software as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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