R1ch1ew Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I have a Samsung SPF87H frame that also only works for approximately 5 seconds. I'm running a clean install of Windows 8.1, with a registered copy of Aida 64 and the Samsung SPF drivers downloaded from this site. Can you help get me running for more than 5 seconds? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 AIDA64 uses an unofficial, non-documented interface to communicate with Samsung SPF devices. If it doesn't work on your device, then I'm afraid we cannot help you out Only one thing you can try: in case you have a complicated LCD layout, you can try lowering the JPEG quality, but about the 5-seconds issue I don't think that would help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1ch1ew Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Hi thanks for your reply. I have tried changing the quality to 50 %, I still only get a display for 5 seconds. Your reply does contradict the first post in this topic stating support for Samsung SPF frames in particular the model I managed to track down. Maybe this should be edited as I'm the second person to indicate problems with the SPF87H. It now looks like I have to find an alternate display, can anyone recommend a USB display device that works ? At the moment this is a disappointing outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 Your reply does contradict the first post in this topic stating support for Samsung SPF frames in particular the model I managed to track down. Maybe this should be edited as I'm the second person to indicate problems with the SPF87H. We've edited the first post, thank you. It now looks like I have to find an alternate display, can anyone recommend a USB display device that works ? At the moment this is a disappointing outcome. How about using your cell phone or tablet display as a wireless LCD for AIDA64? http://forums.aida64.com/topic/2636-remotesensor-lcd-for-smartphones-and-tablets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1ch1ew Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks for replying Fiery. I did briefly try using an old Ipod touch but couldn't connect to the IP address. Ideally I would like a display big enough to show a number of sensors at the same time, that's why the photo frame option seems an ideal solution. I would love to purchase a Samsung 800P but they seem impossible to track down in the UK. I'll keep looking. Final question, I was considering a Yocto Display, as an alternative. Have you tested these displays and is it possible to have multiple pages as I'm not sure how much data could be displayed on the small screens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 14, 2015 Author Share Posted May 14, 2015 We've tested the AIDA64 LCD module with Yocto-MiniDisplay and Yocto-MaxiDisplay, and they both worked flawlessly. But those are quite little screens, compared to a photo frame. And they do not feature buttons to change pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I try to use SPF-107H (LP10|PLERT/EN, PID=$2036, VID=$04E8, firmware 1008) in Win7x64. It works only 2-3 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 I try to use SPF-107H (LP10|PLERT/EN, PID=$2036, VID=$04E8, firmware 1008) in Win7x64. It works only 2-3 seconds. Do you use the Samsung Mini-Monitor driver, or our LibUsb driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Without installed "Frame manager" frame don't work at all. AIDA don't recognize it. I can't install LibUsb driver - without "Frame manager" frame may be manually turned in "mini-monitor" mode for 2-3 seconds, after that it unconnect from USB. For work I close "Frame manager" and start AIDA. It successfully turn frame from "storage" to "mini-monitor" and show picture, but only 2-3 sec. After that USB connection close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 Without installed "Frame manager" frame don't work at all. AIDA don't recognize it. I can't install LibUsb driver - without "Frame manager" frame may be manually turned in "mini-monitor" mode for 2-3 seconds, after that it unconnect from USB. For work I close "Frame manager" and start AIDA. It successfully turn frame from "storage" to "mini-monitor" and show picture, but only 2-3 sec. After that USB connection close. Sad to hear that it doesn't work with either driver I've moved your device to the "not working" category in the opening post. I'm confused though, since it seems to work in some cases, while on a similar (or almost similar) device it fails to work. Maybe the issue is related to a certain hardware revision or firmware revision? Hard to tell, we have very limited knowledge about SPF variants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Maybe it will be helpful: Controller of frame is MP630DTCG-B - http://www.modiotek.com.tw/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=82〈=enI try to use it in Windows similar to this projects:http://web.media.mit.edu/~gracewoo/stuff/picframe/http://www.puschmann.net/page/?page_id=62But unsuccessfully. Maybe this models (SPF-87H & SPF-107H) has "exit timer" and it close connection if frame frequency is very low. I try to decrease LCD update time to 50ms (20Hz), but min in 5.20 version is 500ms. Can you expand this range to check it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Maybe it will be helpful: Controller of frame is MP630DTCG-B - http://www.modiotek.com.tw/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62&Itemid=82&lang=en I try to use it in Windows similar to this projects: http://web.media.mit.edu/~gracewoo/stuff/picframe/ http://www.puschmann.net/page/?page_id=62 But unsuccessfully. Maybe this models (SPF-87H & SPF-107H) has "exit timer" and it close connection if frame frequency is very low. I try to decrease LCD update time to 50ms (20Hz), but min in 5.20 version is 500ms. Can you expand this range to check it? We've extended the update frequency down to 100 msec in the latest beta update to AIDA64 Extreme: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta But, I don't think it would help. Please let me know how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No changes - update frequency return to 500 even be set 100. I use logger for original USB-transfer and found this: - packets sending every 82ms (i.e. frame frequency is 12Hz), - every 500ms there are "Device Vendor_Device" command - two zero bytes. Here log in format Simple USB Logger http://rusfolder.com/43725862 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 I use logger for original USB-transfer and found this: - packets sending every 82ms, - every 500ms there are "Device Vendor_Device" command - two zero bytes. Here log in format Simple USB Logger http://rusfolder.com/43725862 Thank you. Do you use our LibUsb driver? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I try both: LibUsb driver from post #38 and Original Samsung. The same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 I try both: LibUsb driver from post #38 and Original Samsung. The same result. Does the every 500ms there are "Device Vendor_Device" command - two zero bytes anomaly happen with both drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshilov Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 My mistake - correct name of command is "Function Vendor_Device". This command sending by "Frame manager" to 0 point. I try to do it from custom application and get good result - USB connection is stable. Also I try to increase frame update time to 500ms. Now "Function Vendor_Device" (two zero bytes to 0 point) and frames (packets to point â„–2) sending from one timer - 500ms. USB connection is stable and pictures shows correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 My mistake - correct name of command is "Function Vendor_Device". This command sending by "Frame manager" to 0 point. I try to do it from custom application and get good result - USB connection is stable. Also I try to increase frame update time to 500ms. Now "Function Vendor_Device" (two zero bytes to 0 point) and frames (packets to point â„–2) sending from one timer - 500ms. USB connection is stable and pictures shows correct. I don't think I can follow that If by Frame manager you mean Samsung Frame Manager software, then you have to uninstall all SPF-related Samsung software and driver before installing our LibUsb driver. Otherwise Samsung's software and driver may collide with our driver. But, in case you've figured it out and now things are stable, then it's great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaljeni Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Has anyone tested the 105P frame yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 We've extended the update frequency down to 100 msec in the latest beta update to AIDA64 Extreme: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta But, I don't think it would help. Please let me know how it works. Concerning the switch back from monitor mode after a couple of seconds for some Samsung SPF I have found on "http://pyframe.blogspot.de/2011_12_01_archive.html" this information (it's from a python script). # This control function is required to keep the frame permanently in Mini Monitor mode. # When the frame is switched to Mini Monitor mode, it remains there for a few seconds, but # then switches back, unregistering from the USB bus. # This function is needed only once after connection of the frame, but it does not seem # to do any harm when transfered with every picture transfer dev.ctrl_transfer(0xc0, 4 ) Perhaps you can add this byte sequence to the contol code sent to the frame, to solve the problem of the not permanent "mini monitor" mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Concerning the switch back from monitor mode after a couple of seconds for some Samsung SPF I have found on "http://pyframe.blogspot.de/2011_12_01_archive.html" this information (it's from a python script). # This control function is required to keep the frame permanently in Mini Monitor mode. [/size] # When the frame is switched to Mini Monitor mode, it remains there for a few seconds, but [/size] # then switches back, unregistering from the USB bus.[/size] # This function is needed only once after connection of the frame, but it does not seem[/size] # to do any harm when transfered with every picture transfer[/size] dev.ctrl_transfer(0xc0, 4 ) [/size] Perhaps you can add this byte sequence to the contol code sent to the frame, to solve the problem of the not permanent "mini monitor" mode. That seems like a very useful information, thanks a lot! We've already implemented it in the latest AIDA64 Extreme beta update available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta Let us know if it helps to fix the disconnection issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 That seems like a very useful information, thanks a lot! We've already implemented it in the latest AIDA64 Extreme beta update available at: http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta Let us know if it helps to fix the disconnection issue. If works for me (SPF 107H USB-ID 04e8:2035 / 2036). Great (and unbelievable short time to make it happen)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiery Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 If works for me (SPF 107H USB-ID 04e8:2035 / 2036). Great (and unbelievable short time to make it happen)! Your post came at just the right time to squeeze a new single line into the code before we rolled out the new beta update Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xixou Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Hi, since last two updates, my Samsung frame stops responding after few minutes. It was working fine for months before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaljeni Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 105P is working and it is a huge display. I had the issue where Frame Manager was disabling Aero. Uninstalled it and now everything is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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