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#41 Dutch

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:57 PM

Here is my initial attempt... designed to fit in the Gadget area.

The ability to associate an URL with an image object can be very useful.
Curious, is it possible to associate a local program with an image object?
i.e. click on the 64 icon to bring up AIDA64.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 04:43 AM

Here is my initial attempt... designed to fit in the Gadget area.

The ability to associate an URL with an image object can be very useful.
Curious, is it possible to associate a local program with an image object?
i.e. click on the 64 icon to bring up AIDA64.



Yes! just have the URL point ot a place the program resides on your HD

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 05:54 AM

Yes! just have the URL point ot a place the program resides on your HD

David

Thanks for reply David,

I think I'm fail on the syntax... can't get a web address to fly either.

In the URL field I've tried:
"C:\Program Files\AIDA64 Extreme Edition\aida64.exe", with and without the quotes (copied from Start menu)
and I also tried:
http://www.aida64.com/ and http://www.aida64.com/
with no luck.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 08:35 AM

Thanks for reply David,

I think I'm fail on the syntax... can't get a web address to fly either.

In the URL field I've tried:
"C:\Program Files\AIDA64 Extreme Edition\aida64.exe", with and without the quotes (copied from Start menu)
and I also tried:
http://www.aida64.com/ and http://www.aida64.com/
with no luck.

Dutch


If that is the address of your aida64.exe file then when you double click on the image in the sensor panel that the URL is associated with it should open the program..... does for me

Another thought, make sure that your image is at the top of the layer! by that I mean the image is not behind say your background or control item.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 08:42 AM

Currently you can only use URLs on the SensorPanel when you lock the position of the panel (in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Hardware Monitoring / SensorPanel). We'll work on eliminating that limitation.

And yes, you can enter a program path+filename as URL and double-clicking will launch the program.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 12:22 PM

Currently you can only use URLs on the SensorPanel when you lock the position of the panel (in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Hardware Monitoring / SensorPanel). We'll work on eliminating that limitation.

And yes, you can enter a program path+filename as URL and double-clicking will launch the program.


Sweet, works like a charm.

Thank you both for your help.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 03:16 PM

As this is the "Brainstorming" sub-forum, I thought I would throw out a couple thoughts, which may have already been considered.

1.Graphing function/object:
> object height/width user specifiable
> horizontal axis reflects user specifiable time period (limited by buffer requirements?)
> vertical axis reflects user specifiable value OR selection to auto-scale to max value within the specified time period
> x, y, grid & graph lines each reflect use definable weight and color
> graph background reflects user definable color
> vertical/horizontal labels reflect user specifiable font, font size & background colors
> user specifiable graph title with all user definable font, size, color options

the ability to display multiple sensor values on a single graph is desirable.
perhaps a selection button in the Modify Item form specifying inclusion in the graph
the ability to define multiple graphs and assign sensor values to any defined graph would be the ultimate
this may require a graph be defined prior to assigning a sensor for graphing


2. Gauges - similar to bar, but shows sweeping needle on a dial instead of a bar
> object width user specifiable (height follows width to keep dial round)
> min, max values same as bar
> user specifiable radial dial marks
> dial, needle, background colors and value/label formatting user definable
> the dial background and/or needle change color as defined limits are passed

my 2 cents worth as it were.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 09:20 PM

Thanks Fiery, yes I have AIDA64 loading at start up and with the main window hidden and if show sensor panel is checked it shows automatically which is fine, but I don't always want to have the sensor panel showing, so at the moment, if it's not showing I need to open main window again and run through the steps to make it show/not show.

So I just thought it might be good to have a toggle from the system tray AIDA64 icon popup menu or the ability to make a shortcut operable from the tray or desktop.

We've added the requested menu item into the AIDA64 System Tray icon right-click menu. Make sure to upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at:

http://www.aida64.co...77kx8sd2yv3czip

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:40 AM

At first I thought that "Show SP" from the tray does not work, then I remembered that my Update Frequency for SP = 60 sec and it appears after 60 sec. This is good for reducing CPU usage, but bad for the show/hide SP. I think you'll have a lot of messages "Why Show SensorPanel does not work?" ;) It should not depend on Update Frequency.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

At first I thought that "Show SP" from the tray does not work, then I remembered that my Update Frequency for SP = 60 sec and it appears after 60 sec. This is good for reducing CPU usage, but bad for the show/hide SP. I think you'll have a lot of messages "Why Show SensorPanel does not work?" ;) It should not depend on Update Frequency.

You're right about that issue. We'll fix that in the next AIDA64 beta release.

Thank you for the feedback.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:56 AM

As this is the "Brainstorming" sub-forum, I thought I would throw out a couple thoughts, which may have already been considered.

1.Graphing function/object:
> object height/width user specifiable
> horizontal axis reflects user specifiable time period (limited by buffer requirements?)
> vertical axis reflects user specifiable value OR selection to auto-scale to max value within the specified time period
> x, y, grid & graph lines each reflect use definable weight and color
> graph background reflects user definable color
> vertical/horizontal labels reflect user specifiable font, font size & background colors
> user specifiable graph title with all user definable font, size, color options

the ability to display multiple sensor values on a single graph is desirable.
perhaps a selection button in the Modify Item form specifying inclusion in the graph
the ability to define multiple graphs and assign sensor values to any defined graph would be the ultimate
this may require a graph be defined prior to assigning a sensor for graphing


2. Gauges - similar to bar, but shows sweeping needle on a dial instead of a bar
> object width user specifiable (height follows width to keep dial round)
> min, max values same as bar
> user specifiable radial dial marks
> dial, needle, background colors and value/label formatting user definable
> the dial background and/or needle change color as defined limits are passed

my 2 cents worth as it were.

Dutch

Both visual elements are on our roadmaps, so as some new bar styles. Although, I cannot promise to have graphs with multiple items on it, since it may be a bit difficult for users to understand and properly configure it. The SensorPanel feature is already complicated, so at first we have to improve on that to make it more user-friendly and easier to set up. Only after that we can start expanding its capabilities.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 01:02 PM

Both visual elements are on our roadmaps, so as some new bar styles. Although, I cannot promise to have graphs with multiple items on it, since it may be a bit difficult for users to understand and properly configure it. The SensorPanel feature is already complicated, so at first we have to improve on that to make it more user-friendly and easier to set up. Only after that we can start expanding its capabilities.


Great! Looking forward to the growth of SensorPanel.

I do have a slightly differing opinion as to the SensorPanel Manager's "complexity". I believe it is more a case of requiring proper planning due to the pixel level formatting capability. As in all things, the more powerful a tool, the greater the control that must implemented.

Bottom line, I hope "simplifying" the user interface will not be at the expense of flexibility.;)

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 03:36 PM

I do have a slightly differing opinion as to the SensorPanel Manager's "complexity". I believe it is more a case of requiring proper planning due to the pixel level formatting capability. As in all things, the more powerful a tool, the greater the control that must implemented.

Bottom line, I hope "simplifying" the user interface will not be at the expense of flexibility.;)

We of course want to keep the current layout, in order to give skilled users the maximum flexibility. On the new layout you would be able to switch from a standard (cleaner, easier, simpler) layout to the current (advanced, skilled) mode via a button or a combobox. We're still gathering user feedbacks, and will make a decision about the standard vs. advanced layout mode later on.

An alternative approach may be to keep the current "Sensor Item", "Static Label" and "Image" item types, and add a new one called "Simple Sensor Item". That new simpler item would not offer pixel-level adjustments, but only the adjustment of the following item properties: font type, text size, text color, bold/italic, show label, label, show unit, unit.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 03:04 AM

Just a couple of quick comments on an awesome feature called "Sensor Panel".....


Would it be possible, when duplicating a sensor item or importing a layout, to reference to the hardware monitoring preferences on the temperature units? It always tends default to "°C" regardless if "Fahrenheit" is selected in the hardware monitoring preferences.

The ability to change font colors based on values similar to changing the bar colors would be nice.

I would like to the ability for a "Maths" channel function where I can display averages and deltas, or whatever other calculations I want to do.

And I have no problem with the multi-graph option mentioned above. I use Motec race analysis software on a regular basis, so I don't think you could make it that difficult to configure (but that's just me).


Other than that, it works near flawless (it occasionally doesn't connect to TMSv2.x at system start-up resulting in no TMS information, but restarting AIDA64 fixes this. Could be the TMS serial drivers taking their time, but I'm not too sure. Happens about 15-20% of the time.)


Thanks in advance!

Great program!

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:06 PM

Both visual elements are on our roadmaps, so as some new bar styles. Although, I cannot promise to have graphs with multiple items on it, since it may be a bit difficult for users to understand and properly configure it. The SensorPanel feature is already complicated, so at first we have to improve on that to make it more user-friendly and easier to set up. Only after that we can start expanding its capabilities.


I understand about "Modern Wo/Man's" need for instant gratification Posted Image and your need/desire to address the largest segment of your base.

But I believe if the flow is properly implemented, it would not be too difficult to use multiple sensors on a single graph.

- user selects sensor to be graphed
- if multiple graphs defined, AIDA64 lists the defined graphs and asks which graph to associate the sensor with - check sensor/graph limit
- if 1 graph is defines, AIDA64 associates the sensor to that graph - check sensor/graph limit
- if no graph is defined, AIDA64 goes to the graph defining page

The define graph selection button could be below the import & export buttons on the SenSorPanel manager, with a list of already defined graphs below that.

I would not look for AIDA64 to test the sensor value ranges for compliance to defined graph limits.

Perhaps graphing would be an option reserved for the "advanced" formatting section?

Being able to graph multiple sensors would be extremely powerful as one could easily see the real time correlation between sensors... plus saving desktop real estate.

Just food for thought.... I have great patience.

Cosmetic update of my current panel:
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Edit: the ability to apply a bias to a sensor value to be graphed would also be useful... i.e. a value that normally runs X amount less than another sensor's value could be biased up by X to show both on a smaller graph height. I know i did not say that very well, but hopefully it is understandable.

Then to take that to the Extreme, the ability to label the left/right Y axis individually... both title and values... not necessarily display the min/max values entered in the graph design module..

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:19 PM

@Fiery,

Would it be possible to have 'dial' or 'gauge' type displays, rather than bars?

I envision a Sensor Panel that looks like an airplane cockpit console.

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 06:14 PM

There is no need to invent something new, just copy graphs system from RivaTuner (best fully customizable system) and sound alarm by thresholds.

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Posted 17 July 2011 - 03:50 AM

We've added the requested menu item into the AIDA64 System Tray icon right-click menu. Make sure to upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme Edition available at:

http://www.aida64.co...77kx8sd2yv3czip

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.



Thanks a lot Fiery, works great as usual, makes sensor panel usage more friendly now :-)

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 05:49 PM

THX, it's a great Feature ;-)

My Actual LCARS / BW setting, 1024x600 to Display on a GalaxyTab 7" via iDisplay:

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 06:45 PM

That looks great! A small typo though: "Temerature" ;)




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