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I'm not getting the flow rate from my Aquacomputer flow sensor.  I have 4 flow sensors listed on the sensor page but all 4 have a 0.00 LPH reading.  I'm using the latest beta v4.70.3237.  I do have the high flow USB sensor connected to the Aquaero 6 Pro via the aquabus connection.  Its displayed in the aquasuite as the third flow sensor and I have a good reading there.  Flow 2 is one of the Fan channels and when I enable that I do see that value as Flow 2.  Is the MPS high flow USB flow sensor currently not compatible with AIDA64?  I've attached my sensor debug in case that helps.
 
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McPolli Newbie

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  On 11/1/2014 at 4:28 PM, Fiery said:

You can already use the Aquaero sensor module in the latest AIDA64 Extreme beta update:

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

 

I use the beta, but I don´t have an Aquero. How can I use those feature with my Hardware (Aquastream XT USB and MPS "High flow Sensor") wich are just connected with USB? My Aquasuite reads everything fine an is able to export sensordatas with xml-files or shared memory export.

 

There is no option for an Aquero or something else.

 

I like to have the flow and temp values on the LCD-panel of Aida64.

 

The Device ID´s are:

 

Aquastream XT USB: 0C70-F0B6

MPS: 0C70-F003

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  On 11/22/2014 at 4:18 AM, eiwoh said:

I'm not getting the flow rate from my Aquacomputer flow sensor.  I have 4 flow sensors listed on the sensor page but all 4 have a 0.00 LPH reading.  I'm using the latest beta v4.70.3237.  I do have the high flow USB sensor connected to the Aquaero 6 Pro via the aquabus connection.  Its displayed in the aquasuite as the third flow sensor and I have a good reading there.  Flow 2 is one of the Fan channels and when I enable that I do see that value as Flow 2.  Is the MPS high flow USB flow sensor currently not compatible with AIDA64?  I've attached my sensor debug in case that helps.

Please right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> Aquaero Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic.

Thanks,

Fiery

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  On 11/23/2014 at 10:19 AM, McPolli said:

I use the beta, but I don´t have an Aquero. How can I use those feature with my Hardware (Aquastream XT USB and MPS "High flow Sensor") wich are just connected with USB? My Aquasuite reads everything fine an is able to export sensordatas with xml-files or shared memory export.

 

There is no option for an Aquero or something else.

 

I like to have the flow and temp values on the LCD-panel of Aida64.

 

The Device ID´s are:

 

Aquastream XT USB: 0C70-F0B6

MPS: 0C70-F003

We haven't got any programming information on those devices. We've sent a request to Aquacomputer, hopefully they would help us out. I'll post updates on this issue into this topic.

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  On 11/25/2014 at 11:06 AM, Fiery said:

Please right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> Aquaero Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic.

Thanks,

Fiery

Here is the Aquaero Debug from my system.

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Hi Fiery, 

 

I've been playing around with the new Arx Control feature to make me a all new panel for my "old" iPad. While doing that I realized, that the temperature sensor for the aquaduct using integer numbers is just not adequate. 

 

You have to understand, that a temperature in a water cooling cycle shows much less deviation than a CPU, GPU or even a motherboard temperature. My "Water inlet" temperature usually varies between 35 and 39°C. That's why AquaComputer's has a resolution of 0.1°C. 

 

I understand that it might be difficult for you to add fraction support for temperatures all through your framework, but I think it would be worthwhile. If that's too much to ask, I'd rather have the aquacomputer temperature values reflect the 10x value, i.E. showing 37.5° as 375.

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  On 11/28/2014 at 7:13 AM, Grestorn said:

Hi Fiery, 

 

I've been playing around with the new Arx Control feature to make me a all new panel for my "old" iPad. While doing that I realized, that the temperature sensor for the aquaduct using integer numbers is just not adequate. 

 

You have to understand, that a temperature in a water cooling cycle shows much less deviation than a CPU, GPU or even a motherboard temperature. My "Water inlet" temperature usually varies between 35 and 39°C. That's why AquaComputer's has a resolution of 0.1°C. 

 

I understand that it might be difficult for you to add fraction support for temperatures all through your framework, but I think it would be worthwhile. If that's too much to ask, I'd rather have the aquacomputer temperature values reflect the 10x value, i.E. showing 37.5° as 375.

I do understand your desire to see the fraction of degrees there, but somehow I still cannot imagine what would be the actual, practical use of it. Why is it so important to know the difference between 35.0 Celsius and 35.4 Celsius for example? Why does 0.1 or 0.4 Celsius make a difference? I of course understand the need to know the difference between 1.0 Volts and 1.1 Volts, but I cannot see myself in a position not being content with a 35, 36, 37 Celsius scale :) If your water is cool, it is cool anywhere between 30 and 31 Celsius. If your system is overheating, it will be hot anywhere between 80 and 81 Celsius, it doesn't matter to know whether it is 80.2 Celsius or 80.6 Celsius -- it's still very hot.

The other problem -- besides the amount of work we would have to put in it -- with showing the temperature decimal digits is that most sensor devices are simply not capable of measuring temperatures at such accuracy. So for most of the temperature readouts we would have to show "39.0 Celsius" or "61.0 Celsius", and from a mathematical pont of view, that would be incorrect, since the measurement accuracy doesn't actually tell us the ".0" part. And overcomplicating the whole thing by showing "39 Celsius" for such values where accuracy is zero decimal digits, and showing "39.2 Celsius" where accuracy is one decimal digit would just make things even more complicated. And quite frankly, I cannot see the actual benefit of all that...

BTW, it's no coincidence that the overwhelming majority of sensor devices will not measure temperatures with a fraction of Celsius accuracy. Aquaero/Aquaduct devices are designed for the hardest of the hardcore users, but IMHO even their engineers wouldn't be able to tell me with a straight face that there's an actual technical benefit of the extreme accuracy of their temperature diodes. It's a great thing when they want to show off the technical complexity and engineering accomplishment of their products of course, but that's more of a marketing trick :)

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Well, you see, when my systems idles, my water temperature floats between 36.0 and 36.7°. In that range, the fans in the aquaduct are turned off.

 

When I start to put some stress on it, it rises above 37°, at that temperature the fans are starting or work. To find the right spot when they should start is vital, because you don't want the fans to be on while the PC is idle. 

 

The aquasuite displays that you can put on your desktop show that the temperature measured is very stable and dependent. I don't think that it's actually really accurate, but that's not important. I don't need to know whether it's actually exactly 37.6°, but I want to to know when the temperature is starting to rise or fall, even if it's just by 0.5° or less. And the changes in the temperature are reflected well enough by all of their sensors, even the ones I've put in the water cycle myself.

 

I understand your points and I agree that for most use cases, an accuracy of more than 1 degree is over the top. But unfortunately, water cooling system are an exception to that rule, I'm afraid. 

 

Again, I don't want to impose any additional work on your part, so I would be happy if the temperature would be shown in 10th of a degree, i.e. 375 instead of 37.5. I guess that would be a very minor change in your data collection routine only, wouldn't it?

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  On 11/22/2014 at 4:18 AM, eiwoh said:

I'm not getting the flow rate from my Aquacomputer flow sensor.  I have 4 flow sensors listed on the sensor page but all 4 have a 0.00 LPH reading.  I'm using the latest beta v4.70.3237.  I do have the high flow USB sensor connected to the Aquaero 6 Pro via the aquabus connection.  Its displayed in the aquasuite as the third flow sensor and I have a good reading there.  Flow 2 is one of the Fan channels and when I enable that I do see that value as Flow 2.  Is the MPS high flow USB flow sensor currently not compatible with AIDA64?  I've attached my sensor debug in case that helps.

Please upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme available at:

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.

Let me know if it helps.

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  On 11/28/2014 at 3:59 PM, Fiery said:

Please upgrade to the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme available at:

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

After upgrading to this new version, make sure to restart Windows to finalize the upgrade.

Let me know if it helps.

 

That helped, thank you very much. I now have a lot more flow sensors and can read the data from my flow sensor.  Its being read in LPH, is it possible to change the unit for the flow rate reading?

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  On 12/5/2014 at 5:28 AM, eiwoh said:

That helped, thank you very much. I now have a lot more flow sensors and can read the data from my flow sensor.  Its being read in LPH, is it possible to change the unit for the flow rate reading?

Thank you for the feedback. Measurement units are fixed, they cannot be changed I'm afraid.

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This is great news. I didn't know for this integration with aquaero :) Everything works fine. I agree with Grestorm, we need 0.1C temperature resolution :)  I changed names of tepm. sensors in aquaero . Instead of Temperature #1 i wrote Water IN , and for Temperature #2 , Water OUT. Is it possible that I see that names is Aida64 ? I mean that for all other senosrs.  Fans names, Flow meter name etc.

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  On 12/9/2014 at 12:53 PM, delevic said:

This is great news. I didn't know for this integration with aquaero :) Everything works fine. I agree with Grestorm, we need 0.1C temperature resolution :)

We'll give it a second thought ;)

 

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I changed names of tepm. sensors in aquaero . Instead of Temperature #1 i wrote Water IN , and for Temperature #2 , Water OUT. Is it possible that I see that names is Aida64 ? I mean that for all other senosrs. Fans names, Flow meter name etc.

You cannot rename items on the Computer / Sensor page, but you can rename them in the hardware monitoring modules like OSD Panel, Desktop Gadget, SensorPanel, LCD (including RemoteSensor and Logitech Arx integration).

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  On 11/28/2014 at 1:39 PM, Grestorn said:

Again, I don't want to impose any additional work on your part, so I would be happy if the temperature would be shown in 10th of a degree, i.e. 375 instead of 37.5. I guess that would be a very minor change in your data collection routine only, wouldn't it?

We've implemented increased accuracy for temperature measurement and temperature display in the latest beta version of AIDA64 Extreme available at:

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

You can change the default zero decimal digits for temperature readouts (which is the legacy method) in AIDA64 / main menu / File / Preferences / Hardware Monitoring. Note that the increased display accuracy will be reflected in all AIDA64 modules, including the Computer / Sensor page, RemoteSensor, Logitech Arx, LCD, SensorPanel, OSD Panel, Sidebar Gadget, Logging, etc. Except for the Sensor Icons where there's no room to display the decimal digits.

As for the actual measurement accuracy, it is not available for most sensor devices, so don't be surprised to see a lot of "37.00 Celsius" or "32.00 Celsius" temperature readings. It is of course available for the Aquaero and Aquaduct ;)

Let me know how it works ;)

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  On 12/11/2014 at 3:58 PM, Grestorn said:

Let me give you a hug! :) 

 

It's working fine!

I'm glad it works fine, thank you for the feedback ;)

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It works like a charm :) You are fast.... :D

 

And  I saw now that we have new aquasuite 2015 and new firmware for aquaero.... Lets see how it works :) 

 

 

Once again , thanks 

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  On 11/1/2014 at 4:00 PM, McPolli said:

Hi everyone

 

I found this topic on my search for an integration of my AquaSuite sensor data into Aida64.

Are there any plans to support my components in a future release.

 

My System has an AquastreamXT pump and a MPS Flow/Temp sensor from Aqua Computer.

 

I used LCDHost for my G19 before but now I prefer the Aida64 LCD support.

 

Cheers

McPolli

I've sent you a private message and an email about this ;)

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  On 12/22/2014 at 2:32 PM, McPolli said:

Hi Fiery

 

Testing is done, and I´ve made all your instructions.

 

Regards

McPolli

Thank you for your help. Meanwhile, AquaComputer was super kind and sent us a set of gadgets to help our progress on the development of Aquastream XT and MPS support for AIDA64. We're already working on it, and will notify you here on the forum, and also in email once it is ready ;)

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  On 10/22/2014 at 12:30 PM, Fiery said:

For Aquaero 5, Aquaero 6, Aquaduct Mark 4, and Aquaduct Mark 5, the following readings are available in the first beta:

- 16 generic temperatures

 

Where do I find them? I have my aquastream XT connected to aquaero and have it's temperature listed in aquasuite. My problem is, I don't get this temperature in AIDA64. How do I manage to get this to work?

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  On 1/5/2015 at 2:41 PM, ilavicion said:

Where do I find them? I have my aquastream XT connected to aquaero and have it's temperature listed in aquasuite. My problem is, I don't get this temperature in AIDA64. How do I manage to get this to work?

Please right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> Aquaero Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic, or attach it as a TXT file to your post.

Thanks,

Fiery

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Here's the first beta update to implement AquaStream XT, MPS, PowerAdjust 2 and PowerAdjust 3 sensor support, when those devices are connected via USB. They were already supported by older AIDA64 releases when they are connected to an Aquaero controller device via Aquabus.

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

In case you find any discrepancies or missing readings, please create a screen shot of Aquasuite 2014 or 2015 with the reference measured values, and right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> Aquaero Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic, or attach it as a TXT file to your post.

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  On 1/5/2015 at 9:08 PM, Fiery said:

Here's the first beta update to implement AquaStream XT, MPS, PowerAdjust 2 and PowerAdjust 3 sensor support, when those devices are connected via USB. They were already supported by older AIDA64 releases when they are connected to an Aquaero controller device via Aquabus.

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

In case you find any discrepancies or missing readings, please create a screen shot of Aquasuite 2014 or 2015 with the reference measured values, and right-click on the bottom status bar of AIDA64 main window --> Sensor Debug --> Aquaero Dump. Copy-paste the full results into this topic, or attach it as a TXT file to your post.

 

Thank you for your response! In the beta version it works for me because I connected my aquastream via USB (additionally to aquaero). Awesome!!! :D

 

anyway, here my aquaero debug dump where I don't see the aquastream temperature although it is connected to my aquaero:

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  On 1/5/2015 at 11:37 PM, ilavicion said:

anyway, here my aquaero debug dump where I don't see the aquastream temperature although it is connected to my aquaero:

Thank you. We've completely revamped the temperature measurement logic on Aquaero and Aquaduct devices in the following AIDA64 beta update:

http://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xebeta

It may cause a temporary issue for previously configured SensorPanel and LCD layouts, since the temperature indexes may have changed. It was necessary to do that in order to add support for all 52 temperature readings Aquaero/Aquaduct devices support.

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